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Not according to my gynecologist. He said many women are fertile into their fifties.

Ask him what he's selling?
- November 6th, 2009, 09:17 pm
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- November 6th, 2009, 09:19 pm
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A tubal ligation.
- November 6th, 2009, 09:37 pm
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Any guys paranoid that women in their late 30's/early 40's who say they want kids are in race against the biological clock and are just looking for the first suitable husband/sperm donor they can find? only to be dumped a few years later? I recall reading a stat that something like 80% of all divorces are initiated by the woman.

That was *EXACTLY* what happened to me, and the major cause of my failed marriage. She went and got pregnant with somebody else and managed to conceal it for as long as she could.

I was so naive.


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really if someone wanted a baby there are other avenues these days that would carry far less drama and baggage.

I am not blameless here, let's get it straigtht: She warned me, "My biological clock is TICKING"


and to this, I VERY tartly replied: "Go DIGITAL"

She went nuclear over that.

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She went on to commit adultery, around the age of about 42, a result of which she got pregnant, and committed bigamy in Florida, with some guy she met, who had been divorced three times before, and much later, court documents showed she already had another baby, by 44, and another divorce within 2 years after I divorced her,


That self obsession with clones of herself wrecked the life of everyone around her and now she is a brand new single mother at 45 with 2 infants she is unfit to raise, and stuck caring with them for 21 years.

My lawyer told me if *I* had had children with this sociopath, 2 results would have ensued:

1. I would never have ever seen them again, for the rest of my life

2. I would still be paying for them for the rest of my life.


And my lawyer was the top one in the county, certified as a family law specialist since '83, knows what she is talking about, had seen it all.

SPECIFICALLY called my ex a true sociopath. .Who even defied the Divorce Judge and stole everything and tried to get away.

Curiosity and the internet caught her out.
- November 6th, 2009, 10:43 pm
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Not according to my gynecologist. He said many women are fertile into their fifties. He doesn't recommend it at all because there's an increased risk of genetic disorders, but Harvey is right, many women can still have a baby naturally in their 50s.
I'm not sure what your gyn means by "many," but I can only assume that it's "only a small proportion." There have always been the rare "change" babies, but is your gyn honestly saying that it's typical for women to be able to become pregnant without any kind of fertility treatment when they are in their 50s? How can that happen if they are post-menopausal (as most women are by their early to mid-fifties)? Even though it's possible for some (and I didn't say that it wasn't), it would be quite foolish for a woman to assume that she can delay childbearing until after 50 and then become pregnant...

Looking at the data from the National Center for Health Statistics, in 2006, for example, there were only 494 total live births to women aged 50-54 (out of more than 4 million births that year), and only 127 of those were first born children. And those numbers include all live births, not just those that resulted from unassisted pregnancies.

Of course most women over age 50 don't want to become pregnant and have a child (including some of those who actually did) and the number of births is only a proxy measure of fertility. Nonetheless, there is no question that having a baby after age 50, especially without fertility treatments of some kind -- particularly a first child -- is by far the exception to the rule.
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My lawyer told me if *I* had had children with this sociopath, 2 results would have ensued:

1. I would never have ever seen them again, for the rest of my life

2. I would still be paying for them for the rest of my life.


And my lawyer was the top one in the county, certified as a family law specialist since '83, knows what she is talking about, had seen it all.

SPECIFICALLY called my ex a true sociopath. .Who even defied the Divorce Judge and stole everything and tried to get away.

What makes this crime - and deceiving a man to take his money is a crime - truely scary, is that instead of defending the innocent and prosecuting the perp, the government supports the perp and persecutes the innocent.

Offhand, I can't think of any other crime where that occurs.
- November 7th, 2009, 08:06 am
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I was so naive.
I've followed a few of your posts and I want to say this. Make no more decisions about anything without consulting us first.

You've married unfaithful sociopaths and bought cars for gold diggers. You are a danger to yourself.

So, in future, let the committee decide. Everything.
- November 8th, 2009, 11:04 am
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Since the average age of menopause is 52, there's going to be a large number of women older than 52 who aren't menopausal. If they aren't menopausal, they can get pregnant! Why do you think they ask if you're pregnant when you go for a mammogram? They ask the question to women who are 60 or less. There's a reason! There is also a big assumption that 'older' women can't get pregnant. Think for a moment women who never took the pill. They have a reproductive system that works just fine. Look at the Duggar family with 19 children! .... and the focus has been how the women are 'up to no good' what about the 60 year old man who says he wants more children. How do you interpret that?
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I don't watch the Dugger family. However, it's just a fact of life that fertility declines precipitously in perimenopause and that the chances of becoming pregnant in your 50s without some sort of intervention are quite low.

The age of menopause is the age at which you've gone a full year without any periods. And, before that, your periods were likely sporadic for a period of time (plus, your eggs were getting old and less likely to be able to produce a viable embryo). This is not a good formula for fertility. Like it or not, this is just how nature works... The fact that there are relatively rare exceptions does not negate that.

The 60-year old man who says he wants more children is an entirely different issue.
- November 8th, 2009, 06:07 pm
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I think that's borderline okay. Much older and it'll be too late.


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